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    Filed at 5:39 pm under by dcobranchi

    No, not Terry Schiavo. The home education grad and his parents.

    Police say Michael Mitchell was arrested Thursday in Seminole, Fla., for trying to steal a gun from a gun shop so, in his words, he could “take some action and rescue Terri Schiavo.”

    Armed with a box cutter, Mitchell told the gun store owner that if he wasn’t on Terri’s side, he wasn’t on God’s side, either.

    …Pat Mitchell is a Rockford Register Star delivery driver, a job Michael had been helping her with for about a month.

    “The point is, Michael was doing what he believes in his heart was right,” Pat Mitchell said. “Even though I’m mad at him for doing it, I can’t blame him. The fact that he couldn’t get the gun pretty much shows you that he’s not too dangerous.”

    Russell Mitchell pointed out what he considers some improvements that could make his 190-pound son “look at life a little differently,” if or when he makes it back to Rockford.

    “I think he needs to gain some weight, get a house, become a little bit more of a couch potato, get married and have kids.

    “He’s too hyper. He worries about a lot of things.”

    Well, he should have a few years in a nice jail cell to calm him down. (Tip credit: Cindy)

    24 Responses to “BRAIN DEAD”


    Comment by
    Gene
    March 26th, 2005
    at 9:04 pm

    Terry’s plight, along with the complicated implications of government power has been on my mind all week as I am sure of thousands of others as well. I just went through Thomas Sowell’s “Quest for Cosmic Justice” and Bork’s “Slouching Towards Gomorrah” and both spoke of rogue judges. The issue of “check and balance” in Terry’s situation has brought up the following questions:

    Is this a test to find the limit our society can tolerate in goverment tyranny, or does a limit exist?

    How is taking the Life of Terri different from what the Nazi’s did, and how is it the same?

    Is this a preview to what is to come to the rest of us as we become less and less capable of contributing to society as we age?

    Should this precident cause us to fear for our children’s and grand children’s lives being cut short by government for convenience?

    Is the big story of Terri and Social Security hitting the news at the same time an accident, or by design to justify the judges ruling?

    What I find suspecious is ALL of the TV news in California I have seen supports the judge. I haven’t seen any published justification to even frivilously support the judge and I am not even religious. The one high school student I asked did not hear any discussion on Terri’s case at school.


    Comment by
    Daryl Cobranchi
    March 27th, 2005
    at 1:47 am

    The reason you’ve seen no news coverage backing the parents is because they’re wrong in this case. The facts are all against them. At least 19 hearings on the medical facts all indicate Schiavo is in a PVS with no hope of recovery. None. She has no brain. Literally. The areas of her brain were so damaged by the loss of O2 that large portions have decayed and the gray matter replaced with fluid.

    I feel for the parents. In they’re mind they’re fighting for their daughter’s life. The courts have found multiple times that she expressed a desire to NOT be put on life support. Her husband is attempting to abide by her wishes.

    OTOH, I have zero sympathy for the right-wing demagogues who have attempted to use this family’s tragedy to whip up their base.

    Gene, there’s only one group doing evil in this situation, and it’s not the judges.


    Comment by
    Amy K
    March 27th, 2005
    at 12:46 pm

    Gene, there’s only one group doing evil in this situation, and it’s not the judges.

    A sentence written by someone with a blind spot.


    Comment by
    Daryl Cobranchi
    March 27th, 2005
    at 12:49 pm

    OK, I’ll bite. Point out to me where the judges did anything other than their sworn duty. That is, to uphold the law. I won’t be holding my breath.


    Comment by
    Gene
    March 27th, 2005
    at 1:10 pm

    The judge chose to believe all the evidence on one side and refused all the evidence of the conflicting side. What if he chose the wrong set? The judge based his decision on documents, why did he choose not to see Terri in person. Terri currently has an appointment scheduled to be seen in a couple weeks regarding her state, but she will be dead before the appointment date. Why can’t the judge trouble himself to keep her alive and healthy a couple weeks till her appointment? Why did Michael wait till Terri was 5 days into her starvation before inviting Bush to see for himself?

    This judgement doesn’t pass the “decision making” test.

    Question 1: If I chose the wrong set of evidence, what is the worst thing that could happen?
    Question 2: If that worst thing does happen; is that ok?


    Comment by
    Amy K
    March 27th, 2005
    at 2:13 pm

    OK, I’ll bite. Point out to me where the judges did anything other than their sworn duty. That is, to uphold the law. I won’t be holding my breath.

    My problem is not necessarily with the fact that you don’t think the judges did anything wrong. It’s that you have set up a good/evil dichotomy. Judges and courts=Good. Schindler family and supporters=Evil.

    Although, now that you mention it… A couple years ago, Judge Greer accepted campaign money from the Schiavo lawyer the day after the court decided in his favor. Not a lot of money, but it’s telling IMO.


    Comment by
    Amy K
    March 27th, 2005
    at 2:15 pm

    I’m not saying it was a bribe. It just seems inappropriate.


    Comment by
    Anonymous
    March 27th, 2005
    at 3:17 pm

    Here are the worst case scenarios for each side of the diametrically opposed claims:

    Outcome A: Judge rules using caregivers statements and documentation of DFC Neurologist as to PDF constitute continued feeding:

    Worst case scenario outcome: Innocent person needlessly lives to the dismay of her astranged husband.

    Outcome B: Judge rules based on husbands claims Terri stated “no life support” prior to age 26 while in perfect health, no therapy allowed, money arguements with parents, found Dr. to give desired documentation to support brain death:

    Worst case scenario outcome: Innocent person needlessly tortured to death through starvation at the horror and sorrow of her parents and family and at the financial gain of astranged spouse. Setting president for future cases regarding taking innocent life by government order.

    Outcome “A” looks more sound to me.


    Comment by
    Gene
    March 27th, 2005
    at 3:47 pm

    Forgot to identify myself on that previous post. That was me, Gene.


    Comment by
    Daryl Cobranchi
    March 27th, 2005
    at 4:15 pm

    The evil doers in this case are Randall Terry and the demogagues. Note that another “supporter” of Terri Schiavo has been arrested for soliciting the murder of Michael Schiavo and Judge Greer. Some culture of life, eh?

    I’d agree, Gene, about making absolutely sure that Terri Schiavo wasn’t coming back. After 15 years, I think it’s safe to say. Tell you what, Gene, I’ll agree with your position- that is, because the cost of being wrong is so very high we should err on the side of life- if you’ll agree that the State should never execute another convict for the same reason.


    Comment by
    Gene
    March 27th, 2005
    at 4:58 pm

    Yes, I agree no-one should be executed if there is any doubt.


    Comment by
    Daryl Cobranchi
    March 27th, 2005
    at 5:29 pm

    So where’s the doubt in the Schiavo case? Do you really think 30 judges in a row got it wrong? What are the odds?


    Comment by
    Amy K
    March 27th, 2005
    at 7:27 pm

    Note that another “supporter” of Terri Schiavo has been arrested for soliciting the murder of Michael Schiavo and Judge Greer. Some culture of life, eh?

    There’s a logical fallacy is there somewhere. Let’s make an analogy. Note that another “homeschooler” has molested and killed his child. Some education, eh?


    Comment by
    Chris
    March 27th, 2005
    at 8:28 pm

    This is why I haven’t posted on this issue.


    Comment by
    Gene
    March 27th, 2005
    at 9:47 pm

    So where’s the doubt in the Schiavo case?
    ******
    I saw video of her smiling and laughing at communication. Then there were affidavits from her caregivers that her communication and response to humor was common, ongoing, and current. Plus the DFC Neurologist with the PDF diagnosis and a similar diagnosis discussion on a physician’s blog. There is plenty of info to support the videos besides her supporters and family. The appointment she had coming up could have cleared up this dispute.

    Do you really think 30 judges in a row got it wrong?
    ******
    If they judged on the basis of documentation from doctors and “experts” hand picked by Michael whose goal is for her to be dead; sure. Why would he present anything that cancel his efforts? He would also go to lengths to block anything that would cancel his efforts. That is how court cases are won. It obviously worked because his testimony and documentation were believed and the opposite side’s testimony was not believed.


    Comment by
    Rikki
    March 28th, 2005
    at 2:56 pm

    I’m honestly tired of hearing about this case, just as much as I’m tired of hearing about Michael Jackson. Can we go for a double and starve him to death too?


    Comment by
    speedwell
    March 28th, 2005
    at 3:20 pm

    No particular objection here, unless he’s already as much of a corpse as he looks.


    Comment by
    Gene
    March 28th, 2005
    at 4:03 pm

    I’m honestly tired of hearing about this case
    *********

    If you are “honestly” tired of the this topic and were specifically trying to avoid content regarding Terri, of the trillions of links on the web, this link was a very strange choice.


    Comment by
    speedwell
    March 29th, 2005
    at 10:30 am

    Our failure to take the subject quite as obsessively seriously as you do really hurts you, doesn’t it, Gene? Go have a cup of hot tea and a nap.


    Comment by
    Gene
    March 29th, 2005
    at 3:35 pm

    You speak as though this topic of “entertainment” no longer suits you. If you haven’t noticed, this topic still interests alot of people, possibly just the grown-ups. If it is new-and-exciting mental junk food type entertainment you seek, why don’t you try cartoon network?


    Comment by
    Rikki
    March 29th, 2005
    at 5:35 pm

    It doesn’t matter if the thought of this topic being ‘entertainment’ leaves a distaste in your mouth. That’s exactly what it is. How many families have struggled with differing opinion concerning a terminally ill loved one and life support options? This is a private matter that the media, the politicians, and in some ways the parties involved have turned into this weeks reality tv. There are very few altruistic people involved at this point, and the majority of coverage is making a killing for the media, no pun intended, from viewership over this woman’s suffering. Take a moment to look at the vultures surrounding the death. It’s not very entertaining at all but it’s making money. Next week I’m sure we’ll be forced to sit through the next big human tragedy, and everyone in the world that should be least involved will have an opinion and we’ll get to hear all of them everywhere we go to get away from what we are being forcefed. This is like rubbernecking at a fatal car wreck, eventually you have to keep driving and get to where you originally were going. In this case, everyone stopped, got out of their car and stepped closer for a better look.


    Comment by
    Anonymous
    March 29th, 2005
    at 8:14 pm

    This is like rubbernecking at a fatal car wreck
    ****
    Excellent point here; you hit it right on the head. I just went through the book “The Gift of Fear” by Gavin DeBecker, which has a section that talks about why we look at car accidents. It is exactly like this case. Although it is seems somewhat barbaric and socially unacceptable, it has a deeply rooted genetic purpose and that is to learn; mainly to learn to avoid pain and death.

    Before this case, I was a fence-sitter on the idea of a pre-nuputual aggreement when my children marry; Not any more.


    Comment by
    Gene
    March 29th, 2005
    at 8:19 pm

    That was me, Gene, on that last post.


    Comment by
    Cindy
    March 30th, 2005
    at 11:40 am

    Have I missed something? A pre-nup wouldn’t address medical decisions.