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    Comment by
    Scott Somerville
    July 10th, 2006
    at 4:18 pm

    Heard the joke about the Pope, Bush, and the New York Times? Bush takes the Pope out fishing, and the Pope’s hat blows into the lake. Bush says, “Hey, no problem,” and jumps out of the boat, runs across the surface of the water, fetches the Pope’s miter, and runs back. The next day’s headline in the New York Times reads:

    “Bush Can’t Swim!”

    The Washington Post ran a headline today that said, for all practical purposes, “Economy Booms: Poor and Minorities Hit Hardest.” The NYT ran a story on the economy today that finally admitted, implicitly, that revenues were up.

    From my perspective, the NYT is more partisan than Fox News. From the evidence of the stock prices, there seem to be more and more Americans who feel the same way.


    Comment by
    Scott Somerville
    July 10th, 2006
    at 5:01 pm

    If the whole newspaper sector is down, then a boycott of NYT advertisers might really work. I haven’t been all that whole-hearted about the boycott thing because it’s hard to see what difference it would make… but now I have some hope!


    Comment by
    sam
    July 10th, 2006
    at 5:15 pm

    Oooooh, a boycott, this one being a request that all media conform to a christian mindset and then lie about the government and sugarcoat all stories that would cast the right wing in a bad light. Yeah, that sounds like a good idea.

    What a crazy world we live in. Good is bad, lies are truth and up is down. By tomorrow, wet will be dry. I can hardly wait.


    Comment by
    Daryl Cobranchi
    July 10th, 2006
    at 5:41 pm

    The economy may be booming but average wages are down in real terms over the last 5 years. And that’s despite the big increases in productivity. IOW, the poor and middle classes, whose incomes are dependent almost entirely on wages, have not been benefiting from the boom.


    Comment by
    Daryl Cobranchi
    July 10th, 2006
    at 5:58 pm

    nobody needs to buy a newspaper to get the news today.

    That’s right– they can just check out HE&OS. All the news that’s fit to rant about.

    And how’s that Daily News boycott coming along, Scott? Surely you wouldn’t give them a pass just because the leak made the Administration look good.

    Your partisan slip is showing.


    Comment by
    Daryl Cobranchi
    July 10th, 2006
    at 7:46 pm

    PATH train tunnel, not the Holland tunnel. Someone leaked that the FBI was onto the plot. Half the group evidently got away.

    Here are some relevant links: news.g...h+News


    Comment by
    Daryl Cobranchi
    July 11th, 2006
    at 6:30 am

    From my perspective, the NYT is more partisan than Fox News.

    You’re kidding, right? The NYT is anti-administration, no matter who is in the WH. Don’t you remember all of the Whitewater drum-beating from that paper?

    OTOH, Faux News is a reliable broadcaster of the GOP talking points of the day.

    This one ain’t even close, Scott.


    Comment by
    Scott Somerville
    July 11th, 2006
    at 9:27 am

    Daryl, I’m not even remotely kidding.

    I’ve had the opportunity to read the Washington Post and the Washington Times side-by-side for years, and before that I read the Boston Globe and Wall Street Journal side-by-side. Whenever I possibly can, I try to read two papers to get some perspective on the issues.

    My conclusion, after decades of such reading, is that a majority of Americans almost always tend to agree with the more conservative paper.

    I’ve looked at some studies that have tried to measure this relationship quantifiably, and they tend to show that Fox News is center-right while the Times is demostrably further to the left. (I’d be happy to dig up the data on that, if you’d like.)

    So–from my perspective, Fox News really is more “fair and balanced,” while I would say that the New York Times prints all the news that fits their agenda.


    Comment by
    Daryl Cobranchi
    July 11th, 2006
    at 10:01 am

    I’ve looked at some studies that have tried to measure this relationship quantifiably, and they tend to show that Fox News is center-right while the Times is demostrably further to the left. (I’d be happy to dig up the data on that, if you’d like.)

    Prove it.

    The US is far more “left” on the vast majority of issues than it is “right.” Social Security? Left. National health care? Left. Abortion? Left. The War in Iraq? WAY Left. Taxes/Deficit? Depends on how the question is worded. I can’t think of a single issue where the Faux News view is in the majority.

    Sorry for being the bearer of bad news, old chum, but on the real issues facing this country, you’re in the minority. Gerrymandering and the Great Compromise keep the GOP in power. But not much longer. Demographics and history are against you.


    Comment by
    Scott Somerville
    July 11th, 2006
    at 3:29 pm

    I’m not arguing that the Washington Times has the “truth.” I’m saying that a substantial number of Americans are dissatisfied with what they perceive to be a “liberal bias” in the “mainstream media” (which is exemplified by the New York Times). That dissatisfaction shows up in the market (the mainstream media is floundering, while Rush Limbaugh and other new media are prospering).

    My whole point is about PERCEPTIONS. Whether or not there is a “liberal media bias,” people like me perceive one. When the New York Times reveals classified information about what appears to be a legal, effective program that depends on delicate diplomatic deals with other sovereign nations, I perceive that as providing “aid and comfort” to our mortal enemies. It’s an extremely risky journalistic move–right up there with relying on forged memos just a few weeks before a Presidential election.

    Here’s a simple point: the New York Times has just given George Bush a HUGE advantage. His base (that’s me) was getting pretty fractious. A lot of movement conservatives were grumbling louder and louder. His spending is out of control, the border is out of control, etc., etc. Then the New York Times “outs” the SWIFT program, and conservatives snap out of their surly mood.

    The latest poll numbers show disgruntled Republicans coming back to the fold. If that’s what the New York Times was trying to accomplish, it was brilliant.

    Perhaps Karl Rove leaked the classified reports to the Times in a diabolically clever move to save Bush’s bacon. Would THAT count as “treason,” Daryl?