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    Filed at 8:05 am under by dcobranchi

    More on Bibles in the schools. This one’s pretty good, for a change.

    Spread the Gospel through actions

    As a parent of two elementary school-aged boys, I was greatly disturbed by the report and opinions that have been expressed regarding the Bible distribution at one of our local elementary schools. To hear that a child was ridiculed, mocked and shamed into taking a Bible is appalling.

    Everyone seems to be upset that the Gideons are not allowed to hand out the Bibles in the schools now, but no one seems to be upset that we have failed to raise a generation that will treat one another with the love and respect that the Bible teaches. This issue has nothing to do with an attack of the free expression and practice of our religion, as some have implied. This issue has to do with the failure of us as Christians to teach our children to love each other as Jesus did. The shame that we feel for our failures has led many to attack one child and one parent and vilify them in a way that Jesus never would have.

    If we teach our children to live and love as Jesus did, then the Gospel that is written in their hearts will be distributed freely everywhere without prohibition. Maybe we as Christians can set that example because we can say all the things we want to, but if we are not living them out in love, as Paul would say in 1 Corinthians 13:1, we have become a noisy gong or clanging cymbal.

    Rev. Adam F. Seate, pastor, Trinity United Methodist Church,
    Fayetteville

    I think he misses the central point about the First Amendment, as the main problem was not that the kids harassed one of their classmates who happened not to be Christian. If there had been no harassment would the Bible distribution program been A-OK? The mother might not have complained to the ACLU, but if she had they still would have obliterated the school district in court– with or without harassment.

    8 Responses to “LOTD”


    Comment by
    sam
    January 5th, 2008
    at 2:06 pm

    He does make a good point in speaking to Christians however. Too many of them are ignoring so much of what their guide book teaches, basically, to live your life in a way that people see how good it is to be a Christian. With the miserable examples we’ve been given lately of Christianity, it’s sort of refreshing to hear one of their own reminding them. When many atheists live a more Christ like life than many of the Christians with the loudest voices, it should make them stop and think, but sadly it doesn’t; they just damn everyone and everything louder.


    Comment by
    Geri Weaver
    January 5th, 2008
    at 6:09 pm

    Actually, the teasing my son received was not a big deal to either him or my famiily, but the school tried to make it seem like it was the reason I got so fired up. I filed the complaint with the ACLU because the school representative could not state their policy for how they choose what materials are ok to distribute. The Board of Ed could also not answer my questions. The school also took no responsibility for the distribution and blamed it on the Gideons for donating the bibles in the first place. Both the school rep and the BOE treated me like there was something wrong with me “since no parent had ever complained before”. The level of stupidity was truly amazing.


    Comment by
    Daryl Cobranchi
    January 5th, 2008
    at 6:33 pm

    Geri,

    Thanks for dropping by. Can I ask for a clarification? You state that your problem was that they didn’t have a written policy (or couldn’t put their hands on one). If they had been able to– say, for instance, one that explicitly allowed the Gideons to pass out Bibles in the school– would you have still complained to the ACLU? I guess what I’m trying to get at is did you have 1st Amendment concerns?

    I’m a member of the NC-CLU (affiliate of the ACLU). I’m interested in what, if anything, the 1st Amendment thinking was.


    Comment by
    Geri Weaver
    January 5th, 2008
    at 7:35 pm

    I absolutely had 1st Amendment concerns. I asked how they determined their choice of distributed materials in order to find out if they would also distribute religious text representative of other beliefs. The Associate Principal tried to avoid the conversation entirely, but when I pressed the issue and offered to gather up copies of the Watchtower, Book of Mormon, or Torah she got very defensive. When the BOE also gave me the runaround I gave fair warning that I would be continuing on with the ACLU and the media to bring attention to the issue. I was quite amused when the BOE initially stated they would allow other religious text distribution if donated, and then recanted their statement shortly thereafter.

    My line of questioning to the school and the BOE was to determine if they were misinterpreting the 1st Amendment or outright violating it.


    Comment by
    Dawn
    January 5th, 2008
    at 9:48 pm

    I don’t think he missed the point, I think he just choose to address a different one and in a manner that might get through thick Christian heads (yes, i know I own a thick christian head myself) better then any intelligent and well reasoned argument about the 1st amendment could.

    It’s the pincer movement, Gerry goes in on one side with the ACLU and the Rev. on the other with his sermon and they squeeze the living s**t out of the people with thick heads caught in the middle!


    Comment by
    NMcV
    January 5th, 2008
    at 11:36 pm

    [quote]I think he misses the central point about the First Amendment, as the main problem was not that the kids harassed one of their classmates who happened not to be Christian. [/quote]

    Actually, Daryl, the harrasment *is* what this is all about. The harrassment is the reason the 1st Amendment was written as it was.

    If Western Civilization did not have a history of one group pushing its beliefs on others, usually using political authority to do so, the Founders wouldn’t have needed to explicity set up such protections.


    Comment by
    Adam Seate
    January 8th, 2008
    at 4:24 pm

    Just to be clear, I do support the distribution of any religious materials in the schools. I truly do support the actions of Geri in this matter. I merely wanted to address some of the ridiculous statements that many so-called “Christians” had been making.


    Comment by
    Adam Seate
    January 9th, 2008
    at 11:00 am

    Apparently there was a “typo” in my previous comment – I do NOT support the distribution of any religious materials in the schools. Wow – how did I miss that one!