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    Filed at 8:08 pm under by dcobranchi

    Long time HE&OSers might recall the online debate [sadly it’s NLA] with Rob Reich. It gets summarized (with a bit of a Reichian spin) here.


    Comment by
    January 31st, 2008
    at 9:38 pm

    //Michael Apple, a University of Wisconsin education professor and noted homeschooling critic, estimates the actual portion of families homeschooling for reasons connected to their Christian worldview is closer to 80 percent. He suggests about 10 percent, possibly more in states like Wisconsin and Colorado, could be considered “environmental homeschoolers,” intent on instilling a conservation ethic. Members of another significant group consider themselves “unschoolers” in the tradition of John Holt.

    //Finally, Apple says, a growing number of black homeschooling families in cities such as Washington and Cincinnati aim to protect children from unhealthy racial dynamics at school. //

    Gosh, that does pretty much sum us up, doesn’t it? The vast majority of us are Christian-Worldviewers, and the few of us who aren’t are either unschoolers OR black OR, um, conservation-minded.

    [insert eye-rolling icon here]

    Comment by
    January 31st, 2008
    at 11:43 pm

    Christian-Worldviewer – nope
    unschooler – not quite
    black – nope
    conservation-minded – We own a Durango, and gladly accept plastic at the grocery store.

    Can we keep homeschooling?

    Comment by
    JJ Ross
    February 1st, 2008
    at 10:39 am

    Daryl, I have a working link to that NHEN debate in this Snook blogpost:

    “Apple and Reich Are SQUELCHERS, Oh My!”

    Comment by
    February 1st, 2008
    at 1:07 pm

    “Met with public schools that fail many children, some parents face great temptation to withdraw and protect their kids. One danger of this, as Apple sees it, is that it reduces pressure on the public schools and removes children from what remains the “last public space.”

    How does having them out in the world every day remove the kids from the public space? It seems to me having them boxed up in a school removes them from the public! Or maybe this is some kind of bureacratic speak I don’t understand.

    “Every other institution in the United States is almost totally privatized,” he says. “I still want a very strong public school system.”

    But we don’t have a “strong” public school system – not in the way I mean strong, anyway! It is a failure, the only thing it is good at is getting more and more taxpayer money.

    Daryl – who is this Michael Apple guy? I don’t remember hearing of him before.