IT’S OVER
Now, let’s beat McCain.
34 Responses to “IT’S OVER”
Comment by Nance Confer May 7th, 2008 at 8:43 am |
Someone just needs to tell Hillary. You do it. She scares me. 🙂 Nance |
Comment by JJ Ross May 7th, 2008 at 9:35 am |
LOL — me too. CNN just this minute has confirmed that she’s lent herself another $6.4 million more dollars |
Comment by COD May 7th, 2008 at 11:56 am |
Last night in the Clinton campaign HQ… Hillary: Did you say over? Nothing is over until we say it’s over. Was it over when Bill bombed the aspirin factory? And it ain’t over now. Cause when the goin’ gets tough….the tough get goin’. Obama? Dead! Who’s with me? |
Comment by Dawn May 7th, 2008 at 12:21 pm |
You know what? I think this may be the first time I’ve been so terrifically jealous of you Americans. Obama is one hell of a candidate – I just wish he were running for Prime Minister. 🙁 |
Comment by Daryl Cobranchi May 7th, 2008 at 12:34 pm |
Hillary’s right. Psychotic, but right. Now, she could fight this battle with conventional warfare. But that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, this situation requires a really futile gesture be done on someone’s part. On to West Virginia!! |
Comment by JJ Ross May 7th, 2008 at 12:41 pm |
Hi Dawn, jealous is fine as long as you’re not um, bitter 😉 |
Comment by JJ Ross May 7th, 2008 at 12:44 pm |
And forget HRC for VP, that’s just crazy talk. You know who he SHOULD get, seriously, to bring back the feminist fringe demanding a lady lawyer on the ticket, along with all the blue-collar whites who can’t afford health care anymore? ELIZABETH EDWARDS! Why not, really? Could it happen? |
Comment by Daryl Cobranchi May 7th, 2008 at 1:05 pm |
I love E. Edwards. But there is no chance that Obama would pick her. She has no electoral experience and she has some serious health challenges. My top pick for VP is Richardson. It’ll be a governor (or former). If not Richardson then I’d expect to see a female. Chris Gregoire, maybe? |
Comment by Nance Confer May 7th, 2008 at 1:30 pm |
We are thinking Bill Richardson, too. But we also like the idea of Edwards, who just happens to bring the lovely Elizabeth along with him. 🙂 Nance |
Comment by JJ Ross May 7th, 2008 at 1:42 pm |
But why can’t the lovely Elizabeth bring HIM along instead?? |
Comment by Tristan Phillips May 7th, 2008 at 1:47 pm |
Personally all three candidates suck. Obama & Clinton are unabashed Marxists and McCain is a Marxist-lite. They’re all for expanded government involvement in our lives, crippling taxes and regulations, and restricting rights. Be careful what you wish for. You may just get it. |
Comment by Daryl Cobranchi May 7th, 2008 at 2:47 pm |
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Comment by Daryl Cobranchi May 7th, 2008 at 2:49 pm |
Either Dem would be a vast improvement over the current resident of the WH. And, since, McSame promises 4 more years, of McCain. |
Comment by don May 7th, 2008 at 4:10 pm |
“…expanded government involvement in our lives, crippling taxes and regulations, and restricting rights.” Umm…you just summed up Dubya’s presidency. |
Comment by don May 7th, 2008 at 4:27 pm |
The competitive side of me understands why Hillary is not hanging it up yet. You’re already 90% into a fiercely competitive and closely matched race, and you want to hold out and put up your best fight until the end, even if you know you are losing. But the realistic side of me says that she can’t win and she should out now so the Democratic Party can get on with whooping on McCain. My prediction is she’ll drop out before the end of May rather than pressing on to the convention. She’ll do her duty and call for party unity and fighting the evil Republican empire. |
Comment by Daryl Cobranchi May 7th, 2008 at 5:23 pm |
Kos gives a breakdown of his picks for VP here. He’s also a Richardson fan. |
Comment by JJ Ross May 7th, 2008 at 5:45 pm |
Good piece, thanks Daryl. So — capable, creative, progressive woman governors who have proven inclined to, and effective at, reaching across partisan battle lines to solve real people’s problems (Sebelius, Napolitano?) sound like they’d have everything HRC could offer and way more besides, more even than Richardson this time around. Maybe we really could have it all, all at the same time, for once? Yes, we can? |
Comment by Audrey May 7th, 2008 at 6:27 pm |
As a Marxist, I must interject. Tristan apparently has absolutely no frikkin’ clue what the word “Marxist” means. I would laugh harder if it weren’t so outrageous. I think the word Tristan was really looking for was “Republican.” They all (Obama, Clinton and McCain) sound just like the exact same Republican party-line toters that have been running the show for the last 8 years. They just throw around a little less God-i-ness in their speeches. |
Comment by Lisa Giebitz May 7th, 2008 at 6:48 pm |
Good piece on this topic. |
Comment by Daryl Cobranchi May 7th, 2008 at 7:49 pm |
Richardson brings tons of foreign policy experience. He really has the broadest resume among any of the candidates from either party. He might have made a good president, but he was a really bad campaigner. Absolutely horrible in the debates. That being said, I’d love to see a female as VP. Not a Geraldine Ferraro, but an accomplished administrator. Janet Napolitano is an interesting choice. AZ governor, so she forces McCain to play defense in his home state. She won re-election by a comfortable margin. And her job approval rating is a ridiculous 76%. |
Comment by Daryl Cobranchi May 7th, 2008 at 7:59 pm |
Lisa, The problem for Hillary, though, is money. If she plays nice with Obama her donors will see that she’s going through the motions and donations will dry to a trickle. WV is a relatively inexpensive media market. But it will still probably cost her another couple million between now and next Tuesday. She’s already at least $11M in the hole. The only way she can keep her base rallied (and giving) is to attack Obama. Of course, that’s not going to help the Dems’ chances in November. |
Comment by JJ Ross May 7th, 2008 at 8:18 pm |
Well, I like it. But “Obamapolitano??” |
Comment by COD May 7th, 2008 at 8:48 pm |
Hilary Clinton, the psycho ex girlfriend of the democratic party. |
Comment by Nance Confer May 8th, 2008 at 8:37 am |
Here’s an interesting thing I just read about this debt problem. HRC will likely be reimbursed for these debts when she concedes. Apparently, that’s how it’s done. By Obama or the DNC? Or Obama has to agree? Or they negotiate something? Obviously, I am unclear about this but her having gone into debt is, apparently, not the problem it is made out to be. Nance |
Comment by JJ Ross May 8th, 2008 at 9:08 am |
So people who gave to Obama so he could be president, will have their money given to her instead, to reimburse her personally for the costs she incurred to fight him and try to prevent him from being president?? Just like a bunch of lawyers. Our partisan system is SO sick. |
Comment by Daryl May 8th, 2008 at 9:09 am |
It’d be a negotiation between HRC and Obama. No direct DNC involvement. And, no, it’s not how things are ordinarily done. But it’s not unheard of. If she doesn’t drop out and continues to attack Obama, he’ll have little to no incentive to bail her out. |
Comment by JJ Ross May 8th, 2008 at 9:45 am |
That’s outright extortion, unheard of or not! |
Comment by Nance Confer May 8th, 2008 at 10:02 am |
Daryl, do you know how this negotiation started? This is the first time I remember hearing about it and I wonder how long it’s been in the works, how unusual it is, who suggested it, etc.? Nance |
Comment by Nance Confer May 8th, 2008 at 10:16 am |
More info about this — but nobody seems to really know much. Shocking, huh? 🙂 Nance |
Comment by Daryl May 8th, 2008 at 10:31 am |
First time I heard it was around midnight EDT Tuesday on MSNBC. Tim Russert, I believe, had heard rumors. As an Obama donor, I would be opposed to paying off her debt to herself and to Mark Penn. I’d be OK with paying off debt to small businesses who provided services to the campaign. |
Comment by JJ Ross May 8th, 2008 at 10:33 am |
Guess I need to get out more? 🙂 All this stuff you and Daryl read and take in stride — I feel like I’m having a spontaneous thought but it turns out others have been all over it already! This one from Nance’s link says it for me:
Or just let Dubai pay Bill a little more. . . |
Comment by Nance Confer May 8th, 2008 at 12:08 pm |
LOL — really, I can’t get worked up about the Clintons being in debt either. Let them get jobs! 🙂 Nance |
Comment by don May 8th, 2008 at 1:03 pm |
Bill Clinton regularly makes in the 6-figures for a single speaking engagement. Even if Hillary gets none of her personal loans back, I don’t think they’ll be applying for food stamps anytime soon. |
Comment by COD May 8th, 2008 at 3:03 pm |
Also, it’s campaign org that is in debt – not Bill and Hill. She’ll just walk away and write off the unpaid loans to herself somehow. |