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    Filed at 7:18 am under by dcobranchi

    Detroit Free Press columnist Susan Ager is all aghast at some nameless magazine’s (she actually refuses to name it) list of “The 50 Best Guy Movies of All Time.” The list includes great flicks like “The Terminator” and “Scarface.” Anything with Meryl Streep in it was automatically disqualified. Ms. Ager is not happy.

    But today, in the 21st Century, the allowances for men, as for women, are liberating. You can be manly — you can even be president — without ever having gone to war, without ever killing a deer or a duck or a squirrel. You can be respected for home-schooling your children. You can refuse to compete with men. You can love one so well that you share your bed with him… That magazine’s editors might now take on a bigger challenge: to list the Top 10 movies every man ought to see to become the best he can be. Not as a soldier or a loner or a posse-of-one, but as a father, a partner, a lover, a son and a citizen. A modern man, allowed to step out of uniform and out of the box he was put in by hormones, history and tradition.

    Way too touch-feely. I wonder what she’d think of Kim Du Toit’s essay (Warning: Kim uses some harsh language.). No, actually, I don’t wonder at all. She’d hate it.

    There are some things men and women just don’t see eye-to-eye on. Films are one of them. Otherwise, there’d be no such term as “chick-flick.” And, trying to turn guys into women ain’t gonna cut it in the long run. Most guys I know can’t stand watching the kinds of movies women seem to enjoy. You couldn’t pay me to watch “Out of Africa” again, and I’d rather put a gun to my head than sit through the interminable “English Patient” a second time (Disclosure: I fell asleep an hour into that Academy Award winner). But, I own all three Terminator movies (T3 came out on Tuesday- thanks, Lydia). Lydia just leaves the room when I need a “guy movie” fix.

    Vive la difference!

    BTW, the nameless magazine is Men’s Journal. Here’s a link to the article.

    5 Responses to “SHE JUST DOESN’T GET IT”


    Comment by
    Deirdre Mundy
    November 13th, 2003
    at 9:29 am

    Heck– I’m a WOMAN and I couldn’t make it through the English Patient! Luckily, an old friend called me in the middle. (College roomates were trying to make me watch it) I ended up seeing the 1rst 20 minutes and the last 10 — it wasn’t half-bad that way!


    Comment by
    Keith
    November 13th, 2003
    at 10:04 am

    I’m 21 out of 50 for owning the list. A few others I’ve watched, but do not own.

    Susan Ager is one of the reasons I read the Detroit Free Press instead of the News.


    Comment by
    Darby
    November 13th, 2003
    at 10:40 am

    I took the “Metrosexual” test. It would seem I’m a redneck, too, despite my gender. 😉 And I love action movies – Terminator rocks!
    I enjoy reading Kim Du Toit, but in his own way he’s as extreme as Susan Ager. I often disagree with them both.
    C’mon, the “sissification” of men is the result of women getting the vote???
    The men in my life are not sissies, any of them. They are leaders and teachers and martial artists and managers and I enjoy them very much. I like “guy movies” because they are about guys. And guys are cool. I wouldn’t want to be one, but I enjoy being around them.
    And yet, a competant woman in a leadership role does not automatically emasculate all the men she leads, by virtue of her gender. Boudaicca. Joan of Arc. Lara Croft in Tomb Raider. C’mon, didn’t we ALL prefer the competant heroine in Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Arc, to the whiny helpless one in the Temple of Doom?
    I don’t think it should have to come down to an us versus them, guys versus gals, kind of thing.
    Strength, self-reliance, intelligence and solid moral convictions should be virtues regardless of gender.


    Comment by
    Daryl
    November 13th, 2003
    at 10:47 am

    Darby,
    I agree on all your points. Kim does go over the top and the vote comment was, IMO, ridiculous. Getting back to movies- the tough girl vs. wimpy girl was one of the reasons that the first Matrix was so much better than Reloaded. Trinity in the first was just plain nasty. By the end of the 2nd? Wimpy, wimpy, wimpy! I haven’t seen the 3rd yet but, based on the reviews, I’m not hopeful.


    Comment by
    Tim Haas
    November 13th, 2003
    at 4:07 pm

    Just got back from Matrix 3 with Alex (always the cheap, empty shows — another joy of homeschooling). Trinity has one good moment. Niobe seems to have picked up the tough chick slack, though.