Utterly Meaningless

And if you sent every Mom or Dad of a ps student $8700, they might be able to offer their “first grader” the real one-to-one attention the kid needs.

Nance

Not to mention $14, 149!

Oh what I could do for my 3 with 26K a year…

Or 42 . . .

Of course our kids wouldn’t get that much per year spent on their own needs per year, even if we DID send them to school. Which only shows how misleading the per child calculation is and why we have to think beyond it — like insurance and income taxes, the original justification was for everybody to pay in and spread the costs even though most won’t benefit directly, because society would be better for it.

And now like insurance and taxes it’s passed the point that even “everybody” can afford the care and services we’ve built in, even if we all agreed it was worth it. Methinks we need a whole new model.

Try 8K for 1/2 day Kindergarten on up to 19K for high school.
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I forgot that difference for you, JJ, in addition to the others. (we were discusisng an article about how DoDDS techniques ought to be applied to stateside schools)

And to think it only took 13 years of high quality education in a ps to figure that out.

wow – unbelievable, Valerie! That’s got to be the whole breadwinner’s salary, in an enlisted household with just two kids, never mind more?

Valerie,

What do those numbers mean? Is that how much the gov’t reimburses local schools in lieu of running their own?

(sorry for the delay — had emergency grandkid babysitting & kid-wrangling at an Event — big wedding needing a floral designer coincided with adorable granddaughter’s dance recital)

Those numbers are what DoDDS charges for tuition to people who want to enroll their kids, but who aren’t authorized to be “space required, tuition free.”
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Eligibility Requirements for Education of
Minor Dependents in Overseas Areas

Everyone who is “command sponsored” (meaning that DoD paid for their transportation overseas) falls into the “space required, tuition free” category. They’re usually active duty, or DoD civilians who are transferred overseas, and whose dependents have command sponsorship.

“Space required, tuition paying” people often have the cost of tuition picked up by their job contracts. We had friends who fell into this category and … the Army??… (can’t remember who is overall employer was) paid for all 8 years of Calvert for his son instead of DoDDS tuition (I imagine they were pret.ty happy about that savings!)

Space-A, tuition free would be people who are DoD, but not command sponsored. (there are almost as many pigeon-holes as there are pigeons)

Space-A, tuition paying would be anyone who isn’t DoD affiliated, but wants their child to attend the American schools. _If I’m remembering correctly_, people from organizations such as the Red Cross, Radio Free Europe, etc., fell into this category.

Some sites that give numbers and breakdowns (not current) are:
dodea....t.html
1998 – 1999 BUDGET Per Pupil Expenditures

“Accountability Report” for the same period:
dodea....et.htm

Sorry, Daryl, I think I missed answering your question.

DoDEA runs the American overseas military school system, and the domestic dependent school system (school for kids of West Point staff, and schools mostly in the formerly segregated south). This system is funded 100% by Congress.

The school system overseas is completely separate both from local “host nation” school system, and from the usual military chain of command. The school ‘belongs’ to DoD, but the local military installation commanders don’t have funding or educational control of the schools — military hands are kept off curriculum, staffing, etc. DoDEA runs that entire show.

Teacher application:
dtic.m...10.pdf

Local military installation commanders are required to provide logistical services to the schools (building maintance, utilities, bus contracting, postal service, housing, and rations [dining facility services] in any places needed for teachers). When I was a kid, the single teachers lived in their own barracks, but probably without the typical inspections required of servicemembers. In Munich, there were surplus quarters, so teachers, along with DoD civilians, all lived in regular government quarters (unless they wanted to pay for local rentals out-of-pocket).

In the funding of overseas schools, all the costs are absorbed by DoD. This is all federal tax money from within the yearly defense budget.

(older link for DoDEA budget:
defens...PB.pdf )

There are also DoD costs for kids in the U.S. For each child enrolled in a civilian school, “impact aid” is paid to the school (tables of pro-rated payments depending on whether the parents buy a house, rent or live in government quarters), which is supposed to offset the lack of property taxes for people living in government quarters. This is a long-standing arrangement as I remember when we moved back to the U.S. when I was 15, I had to bring home papers for my parents to fill out because my dad was Air Force.
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