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NOT ON A FULL STOMACH

Filed at 6:07 pm under by dcobranchi

This is the most vile bullshit ever written and its author is a fucking bastard conservative Christian.

15 Responses to “NOT ON A FULL STOMACH”


Comment by
COD
October 19th, 2010
at 7:39 pm

That guy takes asshole to a whole new level.


Comment by
Mike Higginbottom
October 20th, 2010
at 9:01 am

More lying for Jesus aparently. All is made clear at sadlyn...3.html


Comment by
Daryl Cobranchi
October 20th, 2010
at 9:24 am

Read the last ‘graf of the original piece. It’s even worse than SN! says.


Comment by
Mike Higginbottom
October 20th, 2010
at 10:06 am

Yeah, I read the whole piece but to be honest the thing that really got to me wasn’t so much the way he lied about the suicides and then ‘fessed up’ at the end, but rather insidiously using that confession as a smokescreen which left his readers assuming that these anti-gay martyrs have somehow been persecuted without redemption, when in fact they haven’t. These guys seem to be beginning to use rather sophisticated, almost fractally structured lying techniques to get their payloads injected into the minds of their readers. Commenters seem to be criticising his ‘joke’ rather than his actual lies. That avoidance of rebuttal seems more dangerous to me.


Comment by
JJ
October 20th, 2010
at 11:57 am

I’m still just trying to figure it out. I wish I knew symbolic logic but maybe I can do it with ordinary thinking. What questions come to mind reading this polemic?

Are there no people other than Christians who when bullied and even persecuted by a State, did not commit suicide? I’m thinking about both Jews AND Palestinians (interesting!) perhaps Tibetan monks and Taiwanese, anybody wanna chime in?

Also I don’t recall from my American history minor, that suicide was rampant among African slaves in the American South, who had the Christian religion forced on them by their Christian oppressors. Where’s the redeeming religious message in that, when both bullies and the bullied are Christian?


Comment by
JJ
October 20th, 2010
at 11:59 am

OTOH suicide bombers are bred by extreme persecution. How is that different and/or the same, as quietly killing yourself only? One seems much more like true Christian martyrdom and less like holy Christian warfare, to me.


Comment by
Daryl Cobranchi
October 20th, 2010
at 12:00 pm

And, of course, Adams assumes that none of the kids who really did commit suicide were Christian. But, I guess, that makes sense. If you’re gay (or perceived by your classmates to be) you couldn’t, by definition, be Christian.


Comment by
JJ
October 20th, 2010
at 12:09 pm

Exactly! Good point — and yet, where does that leave alla the prominent public Christians who secretly commit political suicide to satisfy their gay compulsions?


Comment by
JJ
October 20th, 2010
at 12:17 pm

Every time I hear about bullying gays (not just on a day to wear purple such as today) it makes me want to re-enact “I am Spartacus.”


Comment by
Rob
October 20th, 2010
at 12:47 pm

Yeah. Any time you combine talking about suicide with a rimshot, you’re not doing anyone any good. Emotionally charged issues like these are best dealt by blending compassion and facts. And it has to be real compassion, not fakery you break out and wear just to look good.

I’ve been to three funerals for suicides. My wife has been to maybe half a dozen. None of them were over homosexuality, but that’s beside the point. You don’t use the issue to score zinger points in a public debate. Not if you want to be taken seriously.


Comment by
Nance Confer
October 20th, 2010
at 6:01 pm

Real facts would be nice too. . .

Best line here: “Are there no people other than Christians who when bullied and even persecuted by a State, did not commit suicide?”


Comment by
JJ
October 21st, 2010
at 11:58 am

Facts can’t trump powerful emotions aroused by fearing the loss of one’s authority and order and control. A new book offers survey evidence that conservatives feel constantly threatened by change these days, thus are too emotional to think and act rationally. More about this idea of authoritarism overtaking our politics in Snook comment here.


Comment by
JJ
October 21st, 2010
at 11:59 am

Meant to type authoritarianism.


Comment by
Daryl Cobranchi
October 21st, 2010
at 12:56 pm

“thus are too emotional to think and act rationally.”

IOW, conservatives in the US are batshit insane. You’ll get no argument from me.

BTW, on TPS this morning, Josh Marshall introduced the Teaparty Official Tree. talkin...=fpblg

Pterocarya fraxinifolia is commonly known as the Caucasian Wingnut tree. Seriously.


Comment by
JJ
October 21st, 2010
at 1:01 pm

Botanically suited to the southeast zone of north America! (also to the Alaskan tundra, hmmm)