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    Filed at 7:21 pm under by dcobranchi

    There’s been a rather lengthy discussion about the German homeschoolers over at HEM-networking. So far, I think that Helen Hegener and I are the only ones who seem to think that homeschooling (or raising our kids) is a right as opposed to a “privilege” granted by the government. This comment is pretty typical:

    Everything is a privilege granted by the government in one way or another, if it weren’t then no one would spend so much time fighting to keep a privilege or get rid of one. You aren’t free if you have to fight to keep your rights and privileges, you may be more free then other people, but if your fighting then you aren’t free, it’s just an illusion. I’m not saying I agree with it, I’m only saying this is the nature of a government.

    Is this the state of homeschooling in America? I always thought that homeschoolers tended towards a libertarian slant and that I was right at home among them. I’m starting to think that maybe I’m even outside the homeschooling mainstream. Fortunately, at least, y’all seem to be right there with me.

    8 Responses to “I AM SO DEPRESSED”


    Comment by
    Rikki
    January 23rd, 2005
    at 7:48 pm

    considering the defintions:

    privilege: a special advantage or immunity or benefit not enjoyed by all

    right: an abstract idea of that which is due to a person or governmental body by law or tradition or nature; “they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights”; “Certain rights can never be granted to the government but must be kept in the hands of the people”- Eleanor Roosevelt; “a right is not something that somebody gives you; it is something that nobody can take away”

    Certainly the ‘right’ of raising your children would be a natural occurance, therefore a right until you do something so horrible as to forfeit the right.
    Allowing the government to educate your children would be the act of you bestowing a privilege on them.
    The government’s function of course in this matter should only be to determine that your rights aren’t infringing upon the rights of your child.
    I definately think government has decided far too many things are privileges instead of rights, the question I most often ask is how in the world they were ever able to change the definition to apply it to the many things they do?


    Comment by
    Tim Haas
    January 23rd, 2005
    at 8:46 pm

    You are outside the mainstream, but only because the mainstream has shifted from pioneers and activists to (for lack of a better word) “normal” folks who see homeschooling as the answer to a specific problem (boredom, bullying, special needs, etc.) with a specific public school.

    It takes either historical understanding or hard-won personal experience to perceive the black heart of the state; first-generation fighters like the Hegeners and second-generation sentinels like us have in general done such a good job (and of course the market has worked its magic and made high-quality resources and supplies plentiful) that today almost no one need struggle or even seriously think about the choice. As you keep saying, we are strong — but weakness is setting in.


    Comment by
    wendy
    January 24th, 2005
    at 7:27 am

    The weak thinking that leads to people thinking the government grants rights to citizens can be laid square in the lap of the government schools, imho.


    Comment by
    J Aron
    January 24th, 2005
    at 10:37 am

    Well Daryl, NHELD also believes strongly in the natural rights of parents.
    When government regulates, government essentially claims supreme authority over what once was the supreme authority of parents. Once government dictates that it has that authority, it then determines how much of that authority it will exercise.
    People forget that the government is there to serve the people not the other way around. They have powers because we give it to them, and thus we should not allow them to take away our parental rights by enacting laws that do just that.
    We need to remind the folks we elect that their job is to protect our rights not to strip them away.


    Comment by
    Susan Holen
    January 24th, 2005
    at 12:36 pm

    Daryl said: I always thought that homeschoolers tended towards a libertarian slant and that I was right at home among them.

    Were that the case, there wouldn’t be so many tax-funded “homeschoolers.”

    I think Tim pegs it when he says:

    You are outside the mainstream, but only because the mainstream has shifted from pioneers and activists to (for lack of a better word) “normal” folks who see homeschooling as the answer to a specific problem (boredom, bullying, special needs, etc.) with a specific public school.

    The mainstream of “homeschooling” increasingly reflects the mainstream of society as a whole, and the mainstream votes one of two ways, neither of which is known for adherence to libertarian principles.


    Comment by
    Anonymous
    January 24th, 2005
    at 12:58 pm

    By the way, Daryl, the person who stated that everything is a privilege granted by the government describes herself as a libertarian:

    cobran...2.html

    She also involves herself in “lobbying to keep home-education free” in my state (WA).


    Comment by
    Daryl Cobranchi
    January 24th, 2005
    at 1:07 pm

    Well now I’m really depressed.


    Comment by
    speedwell
    January 25th, 2005
    at 5:00 pm

    Well, I support homeschooling because of my atheist, libertarian, radical bluestocking, daughter-of-immigrant-nobility views. Just because I’m crazy doesn’t mean I’m not right. 🙂